Hi there,

Sorry, posting reply in the 1.42 thread now.

Cheers,
6J6A.

Can you please post 1.42 issues in the 1.42 thread (forum ListenLive Firmware development, topic Firmware 1.42 feedback and bugfix progress report)?
This would make it much easier for users to read discussions related to their installed version.

Based on what do you say that the wifi connection is working?
Because it really sounds like the device is unable to pull data from the server.
Are you able to play mp3's from the SD card.
Does News/Weather/Twitter/Stock market work?

 

(Last Edited by penbex on June 24, 2012, 5:44 pm)

Hi,

Having major issues with new firmware 1.42. Just installed the loader v2 and firmware on a brand new OTEK IPTV510 KMP510 with original V1.7 firmware.

Loader then Firmware went in fine, but some of the menus go in circles, and when the "Internet Radio" is clicked, it comes up on the left with "16 entries" and the list is the same as in the settings screen (Network options etc). Same thing is happening on the "Internet TV", "Shoutcast", "Podcast", "Vodcast". Can't seem to get to any content, just dead menus coming up identical to the settings menu.

Also, I can't seem to enter "Myfavourites user account" and some of the options just do nothing in various menus.

Wifi connection is definately up and ok.

Something very wrong with this. Any assistance would be great, as cannot use the unit now.

Cheers,
6J6A.

(Last Edited by 6J6A on June 24, 2012, 1:29 pm)

(Last Edited by lapb on June 24, 2012, 9:36 am)

Due to the update from 1.41 to 1.42 some previous setting had to be set again, like user for the favorites, type of remote controller, timezone... and you have to go through the list.  Now it works very nice! Sleep timer setting  is also much nicer, I can go directly while listening to the radio. Thanks a lot William!!! Great work! I'll  send you a little donation 2. time now and hope to find some friends to follow me...  You really deserve it!  
(Last Edited by lapb on June 23, 2012, 11:59 am)

Yeah, users who just want to use the mediaplayer function while running on battery power need to be able to disable wifi.. that lowers power consumption..

Dear William! After updating firmware from 1.41 to 1.42 I have problems with the unit. It seems the WIFI connection is not working properly, with that is not working anything! The symbole for network keeps remaining red after switching on the unit. When I go for search network, it will find my WIFI network, the symbol in Arnova turns then also green but still no radio / tv works. Arnova is showing network connection problems. (With the previous version 1.41 it was working excellent and except the update no any other change was made!) Please help! Can I load the version 1.41 again?

(Last Edited by lapb on June 23, 2012, 10:07 am)

Dear William! After updating firmware from 1.41 to 1.42 I have problems with the unit. It seems the WIFI connection is not working properly, with that is not working anything! The symbole for network keeps remaining red after switching on the unit. When I go for search network, it will find my WIFI network, the symbol in Arnova turns then also green but still no radio / tv works. Arnova is showing network connection problems. (With the previous version 1.41 it was working excellent and except the update no any other change was made!) Please help! Can I load the version 1.41 again? 

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One further point: Is it possible to reduce the startup time for the resume functionality (autostart -music playback from Internet Stream). I notice that the network connection is established and the resume functionality needs round about 15 seconds to start the media player. After this it needs further 5-6 seconds to buffer the stream. It would be great, if we can select the buffer status (maybe 5% instead of 20% - current). I don't think, that's an network issue, cause I'm running on a 16tsd DSL without problems.

Hello, the min. cache is 5 in 1.41 when playing audio streams.
I have changed it anyway so you can select it in the settings screen.

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Do you know, when you will find time to optimize the speed of the processor. 430Mhz sounds very good und would be helpful, if often used data will cashed on the flash drive or a SD card to speed up the response of the radio.

Nope, the cpu speed increase needs to be tested very extensively when I get it to work. So far the system crashes when I try to increase. So I first need to find the right way and then need to make sure it works on all boxes.

Regarding caching, a lot of data is already cashed on the system (mtdblock7 & mtdblock8).
The main reason is that with the original firmware, the devices are not able to find any stations when the Chinese server is down (which happens from time to time). With the Listenlive firmware these lists are cached and updated on the fly whenever there is newer data. Loading data from the cache is faster than from the net.
Since the 1.41 version the list of news feeds is also loaded from the server and cached. In the upcoming 1.42 release stock lists come from the server as well and also language files are updated on the fly.
All to improve speed and flexibility.

Dear Penbox,

the new version 1.41 looks good (german setup). UPnP is working fine and the included FTP and Samba Server options are great. I'm still using Twonkey from my server.

One further point: Is it possible to reduce the startup time for the resume functionality (autostart -music playback from Internet Stream). I notice that the network connection is established and the resume functionality needs round about 15 seconds to start the media player. After this it needs further 5-6 seconds to buffer the stream. It would be great, if we can select the buffer status (maybe 5% instead of 20% - current). I don't think, that's an network issue, cause I'm running on a 16tsd DSL without problems.

 

Do you know, when you will find time to optimize the speed of the processor. 430Mhz sounds very good und would be helpful, if often used data will cashed on the flash drive or a SD card to speed up the response of the radio.

 

Br and thanks for your firmware. I'm still using it since 1.1 and was missing the UPnP support in the early days. Now, it's very good .

(Last Edited by masterflai on June 18, 2012, 10:45 am)

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Now I want to go back to the classic firmware.

Why would you want to go back?
Anything missing/bad for you that I might be able to add/fix?

Hello!
I installed the second firmware 1.41 with bootloader 2.0 on my Mediaboks 135.
Now I want to go back to the classic firmware.
But I do not understand how to do it.

Ok, there is a little bug. When you turn an alarm on and then turn it off, the alarm is not really disabled in the real-time clock hardware.
Thats why some people get an alarm in the morning eventhough it looks like there is no alarm set.
I have it fixed and will do some additional tests.

Update: it is fixed.

 

(Last Edited by penbex on June 16, 2012, 1:33 pm)

Hello,
yesterday I set the alarm. After some tries I stopped it and I saw "alarm off". But today it started again, and when I set "alarm off" again, I got the messages: I alarm set off ready.
I'm sorry, I don't know the exact words any more.

Regards

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Quote: request: Could you perhaps add an icon in the status bar to indicate whether UPnP is connected or not? After starting the system, it takes some time until the Media Player can find any UPnP devices, so you have to start it, select UPnP, see that there are no devices shown, exit, start the Media Player again, select UPnP, ... until it finally works. Very good idea. It is rather strange that devices do not respond quick enough or not at all..  Hmm.. I see possibilities for improvements there.

Sorry, that was a typo - I missed the word "no" (highlighted in quote).
To clarify this: it often takes some tries to play from my UPnP devices, forcing me to either wait for an uncertain amount of time or to keep starting and exiting the Media Player just to find out the device list is still empty...

Updating language files without reflashing is a brilliant idea - this way small mistakes and additions can be quickly fixed. Will this use a fixed source, i.e. your server or will it be possible to use custom language files from SD or internal memory as well?

 

restore to factory default and make sure to clear cache memory when asked

@William:

I did that including the clearing of cache memory but this morning I found my ARNOVA switched on again. Different from the "normal switch on" there was no playing of the last radio station. Alarms are not active.

To my ENVIVO: Is it possible to load the 1.4 recovery files again with function 1 of the loader 2.0 or is function 6 necessary for that?

 

15.06.12: ARNOVA is switched on in the morning again
AND: After switching off and later switch on my volume presetting is away: reduced to the default minimum ...

16.06.12: ARNOVA is switched on in the morning again
AND: After switching off and later switch on my volume presetting is away: reduced to the default minimum ...

17.06.12: It´s Sunday and first time my ARNOVA is NOT switched on in the morning! Maybe it thinks it is a alarm clock ...  

18.06.12: Monday again! ARNOVA is switched on in the morning again.
AND: After switching off and later switch on my volume presetting is away: reduced to the default minimum ...

(Last Edited by explmag on June 18, 2012, 8:32 am)

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Thanks a lot for all the effort put in improving the firmware. So far, it looks great and there are a lot of noticeable improvements! bug: The setting "Activate UPnP at system start" does not seem to be saved as it is reset to "No" after each power on.

Hi, you are welcome. Thanks for your remarks.
Indeed you found a bug.. fixed now. 

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request: Could you perhaps add an icon in the status bar to indicate whether UPnP is connected or not? After starting the system, it takes some time until the Media Player can find any UPnP devices, so you have to start it, select UPnP, see that there are devices shown, exit, start the Media Player again, select UPnP, ... until it finally works.

Very good idea. It is rather strange that devices do not respond quick enough or not at all.. 
Hmm.. I see possibilities for improvements there.

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improvement: German translation is incomplete and German and English text is often mixed on one screen - can you publish the strings on a wiki-like page or in an accessible code repository (SVN, GitHub or the like) so anyone interested can help you with this task?

Yes, I am working on a few new things. One of them is to push new language files to the devices without reflashing.

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improvement: Why is the status bar shown in different positions (top/bottom) depending on the screen you are on, e.g. Main screen (bottom) v.s Media Player (top)?

Yeah, that is something I do not like either. It became more visible with the 1.41 release since the status bar got more use in other pages now as well.
Only at the main menu and the more apps screen the bar is at the bottom. I can put it at the top so that the bar is always at the top.

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request: It would be great if there were an option to select and arrange the News channels via the My Favorites web page. For example, due to lack of language skills, I have no use for Spanish or Dutch news, whereas many people might not be able to read German ones...

The news feeds are one of the things that went from static data to a list that is dowloaded from the server in the 1.41 version.
You probably did not notice but compared to the 1.41 release I have added the NDR RSS feeds earlier today.
This step now works. Although it is for all devices the same update, it allows me to update and fix broken feeds.
It now needs a server side modification to let users select their own feeds.

Thanks a lot for all the effort put in improving the firmware. So far, it looks great and there are a lot of noticeable improvements!

Some minor things I noticed or would like to suggest:

• bug: The setting "Activate UPnP at system start" does not seem to be saved as it is reset to "No" after each power on.
• request: Could you perhaps add an icon in the status bar to indicate whether UPnP is connected or not? After starting the system, it takes some time until the Media Player can find any UPnP devices, so you have to start it, select UPnP, see that there are devices shown, exit, start the Media Player again, select UPnP, ... until it finally works.
• improvement: German translation is incomplete and German and English text is often mixed on one screen - can you publish the strings on a wiki-like page or in an accessible code repository (SVN, GitHub or the like) so anyone interested can help you with this task?
  
• improvement: Why is the status bar shown in different positions (top/bottom) depending on the screen you are on, e.g. Main screen (bottom) v.s Media Player (top)?
• request: It would be great if there were an option to select and arrange the News channels via the My Favorites web page. For example, due to lack of language skills, I have no use for Spanish or Dutch news, whereas many people might not be able to read German ones...
  

restore to factory default and make sure to clear cache memory when asked

 

A strange thing: For the second time now since installation of vs. 1.41 on my ARNOVA (which was switched OFF in the evening as usual) I found the device switched ON again next morning showing the main menu. There was no reaction to the remote control  then, only the off-button worked and so it was possible to switch if off again.

It showed the "online" icon, as my WIFI was automatically switched on shortly before according to my WLAN-timetable.
But to believe that the switch on of the WIFI is able to switch on the device as well seems to be believing in vodoo ...

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Maybe a small bug. Activating the sleeptimer with STOP is no always posible in clock mode. When you start de clock in the media player, the stop button on the remote is not working .

Correct, a little bug. Fixed now as well.

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- (bug) Mediaplayer : starting playback of Audio with OK ;      -skip forward past last title does return to 1st title but does not play it (exit ->looping)      -skip backward to first title does not return to 1st title but to last title

Hello Hans, Thanks for your testing work  The above one is already fixed.

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- (bug) InternetTV : when exiting after stream failure, mixed menu and error screen displayed

Yeah, I noticed that too.
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- (bug) Recording : appears to work on any type of A/V stream (it starts...), but fails and hangs if other than internet radio.

Indeed, recording is blocked in Internet TV but it tries to start when you try via MyFavorites, Internet TV.
Now solved as well.

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- (observation) PODcast : works fine ONLY after reloading my favorites POD list on the website!!

Uh, No idea what you mean with that.

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- (observation) Mediaplayer : PNP server and contents displayed correctly (Mediatomb and W7/wmp11)     - audio playback is possible, but video playback not possible (all formats)

I will do more tests. Here it works fine with video files as well.
Although files containing DTS and some high resolution are not working. This is more than the cpu cna handle..

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- (request) Recording : works when started by 'red' button, it would be nice to have 'on the fly' recoding aswell !!)

Pretty hard to get that working for now, I can get "on-the-fly" but then two tasks are running (and streaming) simultanously. Thats not what we want.
MPlayer refuses to output sound while recording. Currently it is solved by starting recording in mplayer and then a seperate task for playing the recorded data.
(Open for suggestions..)  

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- (request) Recording : name to include date AND time (ddmm-hhmm) instead of hhmmss only

Ok, modified to ddmm-hhmm.

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- (request) Mediaplayer: RC Home button does not work (a quick exit from mediaplayer to main menu would be nice!)

[Home] does take you back to the main menu in most screens, just not during playing. Will try to add that as well.

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- (request) Mediaplayer : Font a bit bigger, for station name in particular

Will try to increase the font.

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- (request) Mediaplayer : Subtitling???

Perhaps, already tried several things and so far it did not work. More time is needed for this. I would like to have it also.
 
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- (request) Clock : The sleeptimer can't be set without RC. In Clock mode, could the central OK button be assigned to toggle steepltime ?

Indeed, device OK button can now toggle the sleep timer as well.

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- (request) Would it be possible to make access to the SD card through USB/PC connection (as it does through Samba) ?

No idea , I will check that.

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Could you elaborate a bit more on the Loader v2 screen options ? i.e. Does the 1st option (regular install) flash a fail-save block, or should that be done seperately?

Loader V2 Options:
1. Perform firmware update. It will flash whatever is inside the firmware update file. With the 1.41 firmware this includes the little failsafe tool.
2. Install the recovery mode (dual boot feature, it is the mode that gets activated when you hold the two outer buttons)
3. Boot an application from the SD card, application needs to be in the root of the SD and the executable should have the name "main"
4. cleans the internal persistent drives (mtdblock7/8) and removes configuration files (useful if a cofiguration file causes problems)
5. System information (mainly to know if the device has an MTD or MMC memory controller and what the OOB size is..)
6. Write recovery image from SD to the main partition. This option is only available if the loader is started from the recovery partition.
7. Power off...

To be clear, the failsafe is actualyl the loader that is always started but normally not visible. It is activated by using an SD card with the file fs_fwrec.
Failsafe is just to provide a safety net for systems that do not have the recovery mode. I will keep on using the failsafe as it works fairly well.

I also have found a way to install the recovery mode and to generate and write the normal partition fro mthe recovery mode although there are still some minor issues here and there..
Recovery mode files and recovery images will probably be provided per model.
Pff. many more things on the todo list..

(Last Edited by penbex on June 11, 2012, 4:52 pm)

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You can set the sleeptimer by pressing the [stop] button when you are in the clock screen (both day/night versions). Pressing multiple times will change the sleep timer duration (90/60/45/... minutes) Maybe a small bug. Activating the sleeptimer with STOP is no always posible in clock mode. When you start de clock in the media player, the stop button on the remote is not working . Arnova RM003

First of all a big compliment to Wiliam for the release of fw 1.41 !! I have upgraded several Envivo P1119s, P1171s and a Xoro hmt350 without any problem at all. General stability and responsiveness has greatly been improved indeed. Nevertheless let me make some first glance observations :

- (bug) Mediaplayer : starting playback of Audio with OK ;
     -skip forward past last title does return to 1st title but does not play it (exit ->looping)
     -skip backward to first title does not return to 1st title but to last title
- (bug) InternetTV : when exiting after stream failure, mixed menu and error screen displayed
- (bug) Recording : appears to work on any type of A/V stream (it starts...), but fails and hangs if other than internet radio.
- (observation) PODcast : works fine ONLY after reloading my favorites POD list on the website!!
- (observation) Mediaplayer : PNP server and contents displayed correctly (Mediatomb and W7/wmp11)
    - audio playback is possible, but video playback not possible (all formats)
- (request) Recording : works when started by 'red' button, it would be nice to have 'on the fly' recoding aswell !!)
- (request) Recording : name to include date AND time (ddmm-hhmm) instead of hhmmss only
- (request) Mediaplayer: RC Home button does not work (a quick exit from mediaplayer to main menu would be nice!)
- (request) Mediaplayer : Font a bit bigger, for station name in particular
- (request) Mediaplayer : Subtitling???
- (request) Clock : The sleeptimer can't be set without RC. In Clock mode, could the central OK button be assigned to toggle steepltime ?
- (request) Would it be possible to make access to the SD card through USB/PC connection (as it does through Samba) ?

Could you elaborate a bit more on the Loader v2 screen options ?
i.e. Does the 1st option (regular install) flash a fail-save block, or should that be done seperately?

Hans

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any Experiences with auvisio pearl Pearl 8595 an the new firmware 1.41?

Look at post nr. 13.

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With LL 1.4 i killed my divice...

Not exactly true. The Listenlive firmware itself does not kill devices.
Your Pearl got killed while loading LL1.4 due to the killerbug which is inside the original firmware.
It had already damaged some flash memory parts. 
An update to a newer original "Pearl" firmware would have killed it as well.
The longer a device runs on the original firmware, the higher the chance that it dies.

~William

Hello,
any Experiences with auvisio pearl Pearl 8595 an the new firmware 1.41? With LL 1.4 i killed my divice...

Regards

Heiko

Installed and compliments from my side, a lot of things have now been repaired, added and improved...

Thanks

Joop

 

@mrennhofer

Sorry, but if you have once updated to Vs. 1.4 in the past you will get NO information about the former RM002 or RM003 versions in the settings of Vs. 1.4. If you don´t know it now you might take the wrong loader Vs. 2.0.

@William

Thank you for your info, for my Arnova it worked without knowing the former version ... wow!
Now it´s time to evaluate the new release - thank you for that!

Concerning my Envivo I will contact you via mail.

Concerning my Lookee I would go to a future 1.4x as well after testing the current uPnP situation and the alarm clock (because I need this in my bedroom ...) 

Hi,

I seem to have a problem with recording.  Using either 'Internet Radio' or 'MyFavorites' to access the radio station and pressing the RED button on the Otek extended remote only causes the device to hang at 'Caching Data xx%'  The red recording dot on the display IS lit.  Under V 1.4 recording worked using 'Internet Radio' but not 'MyFavorites'.

I have two of these and both are the same.

I upgraded as follows.

1)   I had V1.4 installed so used the 'Local Update from SDCard' option to install the Otek Loader V2.
2)   I then installed V1.41 using Loader V2.

Function Request:

As the display is small it is too much trouble to change stations at night in bed.  I therefore bought a 7" car monitor to use when the 'TV Out' function is working.  Even with a larger screen the station listings would still be quite small - at least for me - so was wondering if it would be possible to increase the font size by perhaps reducing the number of stations on screen at one time?

I don't know how others feel about this or how much trouble it would be for you Penbex.  Heaven knows you already do enough.

Kind regards and thank you for the V1.41 update. 



(Last Edited by Strapular on June 10, 2012, 2:57 am)
(Last Edited by Strapular on June 10, 2012, 2:59 am)

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I would like to update from Vs. 1.4 to Vs. 1.41 as soon as possible. But what will happen if I take the wrong firmware loader 2.0? I have no idea at all whether my Envivo and my Arnova were RM002 or RM003 ...  (Last Edited by explmag on June 9, 2012, 11:35 am)

If you already have the listenlive loader on your arnova then it does not matter what loader version 2 file you use. For the envivo update i will contact you via mail..

@penbex

lookee firmware?
please

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I would like to update from Vs. 1.4 to Vs. 1.41 as soon as possible. But what will happen if I take the wrong firmware loader 2.0? I have no idea at all whether my Envivo and my Arnova were RM002 or RM003 ...  (Last Edited by explmag on June 9, 2012, 11:35 am) If you go to settings menu, Info,  this should be display ...

I would like to update from Vs. 1.4 to Vs. 1.41 as soon as possible.

But what will happen if I take the wrong firmware loader 2.0?
I have no idea at all whether my Envivo and my Arnova were RM002 or RM003 ... 

(Last Edited by explmag on June 9, 2012, 11:35 am)

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I can t change volume during alarm tone choice. I Tried each button without luck, the only one that seems to do something is the Internet Radio button (it mutes the alarm)

I choose [settings], [Alarm], [Alarm1],[Alarm 1 Tone setup], then pick any of the sounds and can change the volume with the volume button.

Did you set the remote control type already in settings?
[settings], [Remote Control Settings], [Remote Control Model] then press the mute button. Doing this the firmware can see the scancode and figure out the remote control model you have.

 

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I tried  the new version one strange bug ??? looking in the menu "My favourites" (heart icon) the device displays only 6X "Internet TV" under that menus I see: 1e Internet TV: my real favourites TV 2e Internet TV: my radiostations 3e Internet TV: my podcasts and so on

Hi Loek, Go to the settings screen and select English language.
You have found a bug in the dutch language file. i will correct that as soon as possible.

I tried  the new version

I can t change volume during alarm tone choice.

I Tried each button without luck, the only one that seems to do something is the Internet Radio button (it mutes the alarm)


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Quote: Hi, I cannot seem to set the alarm to use an internet radio or any favorite is that normal? In the tones for the alarms there is one called: "weekend (Sat-Sun)" Noooooo... crap.. I missed that Indeed this is the entry for the last played music stream. Try it out.. Go to the radio station you like to wake up with and play that.. stop, then go to settings to set the alarm sound and set "weekend (Sat-Sun)"   you will hear a regular test sound so you can set the volume level for the alarm. when done setting the alarm level the station is stored as alarm sound. (It will actually display "last played station stored as alarm soud" You can repeat the sequence for the second alarm. This way you can have two different stations as wake up sound. After setting the alarm you can listen to another station, use the sleep timer with that station and fall asleep. This will not affect the selected alarm stations. Note that you can use an internet radio station, podcast, shoutcast or even a file stored on the SDCard, Internal memory or network drive.   (Last Edited by penbex on June 8, 2012, 7:41 pm)

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Quote: Everything runs fine, I am happy with the new version. Thanks a lot! I wonder if there is a possibility to set sleep timer without going to the settings, I mean while listening to the radio, set sleep timer directly? In any case it would be a nice feature for the next version.  (Last Edited by lapb on June 8, 2012, 3:14 pm) Hi, You can set the sleeptimer by pressing the [stop] button when you are in the clock screen (both day/night versions). Pressing multiple times will change the sleep timer duration (90/60/45/... minutes) In the upper right corner the nr. of minutes until power down is displayed. This will count down to zero and power off. Quote: I can't figure out how recording of radio streams works on my Arnova?  Recording works best on MP3 streams. . Just go to the radio station list in: - Internet radio - Shoutcast - MyFavorites Press the RED or EQ button to start recording.

Installed it on my Pearl IPTV 2335 RM003 - works like a charm! Many thanks, William!

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Hi, I cannot seem to set the alarm to use an internet radio or any favorite is that normal? In the tones for the alarms there is one called: "weekend (Sat-Sun)"

Noooooo... crap.. I missed that
Indeed this is the entry for the last played music stream.
Try it out..

Go to the radio station you like to wake up with and play that.. stop, then go to settings to set the alarm sound and set "weekend (Sat-Sun)"   you will hear a regular test sound so you can set the volume level for the alarm.
when done setting the alarm level the station is stored as alarm sound. (It will actually display "last played station stored as alarm soud"

You can repeat the sequence for the second alarm. This way you can have two different stations as wake up sound.
After setting the alarm you can listen to another station, use the sleep timer with that station and fall asleep. This will not affect the selected alarm stations.

Note that you can use an internet radio station, podcast, shoutcast or even a file stored on the SDCard, Internal memory or network drive.

 

(Last Edited by penbex on June 8, 2012, 7:41 pm)

Hi,

I cannot seem to set the alarm to use an internet radio or any favorite is that normal?

In the tones for the alarms there is one called: "weekend (Sat-Sun)"

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Everything runs fine, I am happy with the new version. Thanks a lot! I wonder if there is a possibility to set sleep timer without going to the settings, I mean while listening to the radio, set sleep timer directly? In any case it would be a nice feature for the next version.  (Last Edited by lapb on June 8, 2012, 3:14 pm)

Hi,

You can set the sleeptimer by pressing the [stop] button when you are in the clock screen (both day/night versions).
Pressing multiple times will change the sleep timer duration (90/60/45/... minutes)
In the upper right corner the nr. of minutes until power down is displayed. This will count down to zero and power off.

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I can't figure out how recording of radio streams works on my Arnova?

Recording works best on MP3 streams. .
Just go to the radio station list in:
- Internet radio
- Shoutcast
- MyFavorites

Press the RED or EQ button to start recording.

I can't figure out how recording of radio streams works on my Arnova? 

Everything runs fine, I am happy with the new version. Thanks a lot! I wonder if there is a possibility to set sleep timer without going to the settings, I mean while listening to the radio, set sleep timer directly? In any case it would be a nice feature for the next version. 
(Last Edited by lapb on June 8, 2012, 3:14 pm)

I did everything as described, but now my Xoro is stuck on the red Xoro boot logo....

Put all files on SD-Card, the loader came up, I pressed OK, now the device only boots to the logo...
Nothing happens, even the loader does not start up anymore.

Could you please help me?

//EDIT: Got it solved, I had to remove the SD-Card after updating the loader, then the loader 2.0 showed up, I put back in the SD-Card and firmware update succeeded

(Last Edited by NosferatuAlucard on June 8, 2012, 11:48 am)

william,

Thanks for the update, installed version 1.41 on my Envivo with no problems.  I start exploring all the new features.........

Thank you William. Everything runs like you said. Looks good everything at the moment, keep testing. 

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Also I am not sure anymore if I have Arnova Arnova Kmp511.2.1 Rm003 or Arnova Kmp511.2 Rm002 and can' t see this anyomore since my last update for Version 1.4.  I thought I have Arnova Arnova KMP 511.2.1 RM003, this loader I put first on the unit.

If you already have the Listenlive loader (version 1) on your device, it does not matter much which version 2 loader you take. Just grab one, if you used the RM003 version the first time, then use the loader v2 rm003 version again.

Prepare your SD card with the following files: "firmware-update.bin" from the loader archive and "llfirmware.upd" + "llfirmware.upd.md5" from the 1.41 archive and make a file "fs_fwrec" (empty file is fine) and put that on the SD card as well..
Insert the SD card in the device and power on.
The fs_fwrec file will trigger the failsafe mechanism to load a new firmware. It will load the loader version 2. Once done, power on the device again.
it will now boot into the new loader version 2 which looks like this:

Obviously you have to select option number 1.
This option will use the llfirmware.upd files
You do not need to use any of the other options.

As you can see the loader also has option number 2, a way to install the real recovery mode to your device... 
I still need to make files for the various models but files for this will be available later on.
Once installed, the recovery mode can then be used to fix the device even when the linux partition is badly damaged.

(Last Edited by lapb on June 8, 2012, 9:50 am)

Changelog ListenLive firmware

v1.41 - dated: 7 june 2012
Improved overal stability.
Added: If a stream stops due to an empty cache it will restart up to 3 times. (can be turned off in "volume and player settings")
             Note that this feature works perfect in some cases, in other cases it might just fail 3 times in a row.
Added: Video is now automatically scaled to full screen. (can be turned off in "volume and player settings")
Changed: News page font changed from 10p to 12p
Changed: Twitter page shows 5 tweets per page, was 7
Changed: Twitter page font changed from 10p to 12p
Added: Latest Movie Trailers from a well-known source
Added: some additional system information that is needed for recovery modes.
Added: When the alarm is set to the last player url, it is stored seperately. This means you can set Alarm1 to the last played station, then tune to a new station, set Alarm 2 to that one and then listen to a different station with the sleep timer. This solves the problem of going to sleep with one station and waking up with another.
Added: Sleep timer countdown is displayed on the clock screen.
Added: first alarm to get triggered and the time it is triggered is displayed on the clock screen.
Changed: Audio/Media player has a new graphics layout and some on screen buttons (previous/next/play/pause/record/stop/shuffle/repeat).
Added: shuffle and repeat are controlled with the repeat button, just press multiple times to turn options on/off
Added: additional XML support increasing compatibility with several entended XML documents.
Added: additional code page support for XML data
Added: NBC streams to the More Apps button (previously known as sub menu).
Added: Weather now also shows visibility, humidity, air pressure and UV index
Fixed: SSID with spaces now fully supported.
Fixed: sleep timer.
Fixed: Alarm 1 and 2 and several issues surrounding it. Press back/exit button to deactivate alarm, ok/up/down to snooze. 
Fixed: Alarm can now wake you up with internet radio station sound. Selection is limited to the last played station for now, to not delay the release much longer this will be extended at a later date.
Fixed: Wifi (re)connection bug failed to reinitialize.
Fixed: Wifi AP list now also shows the currently connected AP
Fixed: Wifi AP list incorrectly displayed open networks as Encrypted () without encryption type.
Fixed: list rotation bug.
Fixed: manual entry of stock symbol now works again.
Fixed: NFS server activation/deactivation.
Fixed: FTP server activation/deactivation.
Fixed: Memory leak in the application switching code.
Fixed: crash on missing image.
Fixed: issue with second DNS address.
Fixed: controlling the settings screen with the device buttons was not always working.
Fixed: not being able to play video from UPnP devices.
Fixed: when multiple files were being played in some cases the wrong title was displayed.
Added: Directories can now be sorted alphabetical or on file type (using the fav button during directory listing)
Added: loading of compressed Internet data
Added: WEP key encryption now supports all 4 keys which can be entered in decimal or hexadecimal. WEP is not recommended though since it is not secure.
Added: Now a mail symbol gets displayed on the taskbar when a new firmware is available.
Added: Alarm can now also start the FM Radio.
Added: MediaPlayer now also displays images and plays a slideshow.
Added: MediaPlayer now also can display images from UPnP and Samba network devices.
Added: MediaPlayer listings now have icons to indicate audio/video/image/directory.
Added: Sleep timer now has a selection to power down or to go to the clock screen.
Added: Podcasts from the server are now correctly listed on the device (also on older firmwares).
Added: Volume control with top buttons during clock display.
Added: UPnP activation at startup is now optional it can be (de)activated in the settings smenu. in normal cases it will be activated upon entering the media player.
Added: Dropbear/SSH support.
Added: Recorded radio streams now contain part of the station name in the file name (together with date and time of the recording).
Added: When an alarm sound is selected, the volume can be modified during the playback of the alarm sound selection and is stored together with the selected sound as wake up volume. For Internet radio and FM radio an alternative sound is played in order to control and properly set the volume.
Added: New weather radar images for all regions (Asia/Africa/Europe/South America/North America/Oceania)! (Meteovista) Region selection under settings or using up/down when watching the radar images.
Added: EQ/Red button now also switches to the clock while listening to music. (added for Xoro remote users).
Added: Auto play at startup can now do last played audio or video (selection under settings).
Changed: increased cache for Internet radio streaming.
Changed: [EQ/Red] button to switch between applications changed to [Sub menu] button.
Changed: now auto play at startup will only start if you are in the main menu when the Internet connection is established.
Changed: WPA/WPA2 password length increased to max. 63 characters under manual network settings.
Changed: Internet TV/Video Player mode now also correctly terminates on user request. This solves hanging url's.(Special watchdog implemented for both audio and video).
Changed: Mediaplayer: OK button now plays all files in a directory, Play button only plays the highlited entry.
Changed: Mediaplayer: Starts playing directories from the highlited entry.
Changed: The [home] button now brings you instantly back to the main menu.
Changed: Removed the Photoplayer as this is now included in the Mediaplayer.
Changed: Photoplayer button is replaced by a "More Apps" button that leads to the submenu.
Changed: Weather app has changed, some new data etc.
Changed: FM Radio: Device buttons up/down now control volume (consistant with playing radio/mp3's )

v1.4 - dated: 05 march 2012
- Added: UPnP support
- Added: (Experimental!!)  Recording option on Internet Radio stations. In the radio list, press RED or EQ button to record.
- Added: Buienradar on the weather module. Radar images for Europe and Netherlands are available.
- Added: Alarm sound selection, choose from 9 pre-loaded sounds or use option 10: the last played radio station/audio sound file
- Added: Clock can now be displayed during audio playback
- Added: clock button can be used to toggle between normal and nighttime clock mode 
- Added: 'App' Button assigned to switch between News/Weather/Twitter and Stocks.  Extended remote: Red button / Simple remote: EQ button
- Added: 'App' button works while listening to music.
- Added: Analog clock. (Analog / Digital clock selection is made via the settings screen)
- Added: Auto play at startup (enable in settings to use it)
- Added: shortcut to Sleeptimer, use the [Stop] button any time in any menu (except when playing audio/video) to activate or change the sleep timer setting.
               Multiple presses cycle through the various sleep timer options.
- Added extra checks for broken streams to avoid long waits/hanging for +30 seconds
- Added better stream identification before giving a stream to MPlayer
- Added: Now reports errors when trying to play broken or inactive streams
- Added: MPlayer volume preset is now adjustable via the settings menu (this is the base volume of the player)
- Added: "last played video" to the Favorites menu
- Added: step forward/backward (15 seconds) through audio files
- Added: Sleep timer: 90 minutes setting
- Added: vsFTP, can be enabled/disabled via the settings screen
- Added: safe beta testing mechanism
- Added: Updates internal clock with NTP time upon entering the clock screens (if NTP synchronization is enabled in the settings screen)
- Added: Now shows an icon on the taskbar when the device is connected on main power / USB power
- Added: Volume and Wifi status are shown in most menu screens
- Added: Can now also remove a single access point from the list.
- Added: Center button (aka OK button) on top of the device can now be used to pause playback
- Added: Logitech Harmony support (read next line)
- Added: Support for the Penbex Remote Controls because it is supported by the Logitech.Harmony. So it is a replacement option for people that have no original remote.
              Also it supports more buttons than the standard remote that comes with the Xoro models.
              Program your Harmony as a Centrios KW 1315117. Once done, navigate with the device buttons to the settings screen, [remote control settings] and select [Remote Control model]
              the screen then waits for you to press the [Mute] button. Once you press mute it should detect the Penbex remote and map the buttons accordingly.
- Fixed: Samba: now able to browse Netgear ReadyNAS models.
- Fixed: Samba: now able to browse Windows 7 machines. Anonymous viewing of Win 7 shares was in most cases not possible. 
             Now Win 7 is correctly detected and username/password are aasked. Alternative is to change Win 7 settings for shares.
- Fixed: Sleeptime had a problem with the date change, should be fixed now.
- Fixed: Main device volume survives reboots (it is saved and restored when the device is turned off/on)
- Fixed: playing random tracks when in playlist mode
- Fixed: some small bugs
- Fixed: Clock now displays month and day in the correct language
- Fixed: Manual AccessPoint connection fixed, hidden SSID should work now too
- Fixed: "Restart last played Music link" in some cases stops responding to key input so it will play forever or until you unplug power..
- Fixed: After the night brightness fix not surviving a reboot the brightness and night brightness got tangled.
- Fixed: a bug that showed the SD card inserted icon incorrectly in some cases
- Fixed: Menu navigation remembers position in most menu screens when going back to a previous screen
- Fixed: Weather location selection was showing just the city, now shows city + country/state
- Changed: stock market now shows major stock market data (DJ/NYSE,SMI,AEX,CAC,DAX and more)
- Changed: Sleep timer volume will go down in steps in the last 3, 2 and 1 minute.
- Changed: Rearranged the Network Settings screen
- Changed: Improved network stability and detection
- Changed: Samba Server is now disabled by default. Can be enabled in the settings screen
- Changed: News module has been improved. better support for some RSS types, more feeds added as well
- Changed: Twitter module has been improved. following Twitter API now too
- Changed: Modified memory usage to improve behaviour
- Scrollover the top of the menu to the beginning of the list is an option now. It can be activated in the settings screen
- Changed: Moved the external media related buttons (USA Today, Revision3, Discovery HD, CNN etc etc.) to a sub menu. Sub menu can be reached with the menu button
- Changed: The text of the selected menu item is now printed in Yellow in the main and sub menu. So when the glass "selector" tile is not visible the text will help.

v1.3a - dated: 07 january 2012
- When network was set to "OFF" the system would crash. No longer possible.
- Fixed Static IP. 
- Fixed the screen refresh settings not updating the display correctly.
- Fixed asf streams not being recognized correctly (eg. N-TV stream now correctly identified and playing)

v1.3 - dated: 06 january 2012
- Added volume control for small remotes like used with Xoro. 
- Fixed top buttons.
- By slowing down the device key responses key repetition got broken. It is working again now. but needs a long press. Need more test results to fine tune.
- Fixed a cache bug on Podcast and Vodcast favorites.
- Can now play the last played stream/file. No matter if this was before a powerdown or just some minutes ago.
   You can find a new option under "my favorites" where you can select "Play last audio link" to play whatever radio/mp3 file you played last.
- FAV button goes directly to favorites screen
- Fixed the FM tuning scale.
- Fixed some stream types that refused to play.
- When updating from an older firmware version the sleeptimer 'icon' got activated but not the sleeptimer itself. Fixed.
- After deleting the access point list, wpa_supplicant still remembered the configuration requiring a reboot. Should be solved now.
- WPA2 had some bugs causing it to fail. Routers set to WPA and WPA/WPA2 mixed were working fine. Pure WPA2 was often failing.
  Completely rewrote the network routines. Open, WEP, WPA and WPA2 should work now.
  Routines now use low level socket functions.
- Static IP still failed to work due to some remembered settings. Fixed now.
- Fixed the Wifi Signal strength indicator. Now it gives the real signal strength.
- Twitter page now shows special characters correctly (like ÿüë etc.)
- Failsafe mode now more powerful
- In previous versions, the remote control buttons are used in a compatibility mode. This means only buttons that are on all remote controls are used.
  Now its possible to select the correct remote control type in the setup screen. No real selection is needed, just the [Mute] button has to be pressed.
 Since Mute is different on each model the program determines what type to use. The selection is stored so you only have to do it once. 
 During the selection, any button other than [Mute] will push the selection back to compatibility mode.
- Now that the remotes are identified, new button options have been introduced. In most cases [Home] will take you to the top of lists.
 [Clock] gets you to the day time clock mode. [Fav] to the favorites menu, [FM] to the FM screen, [Int Radio] and [Int. TV] to the Internet Radio/TV screens.
- Twitter and Weather data gets refreshed automatically if you activate screen refreshing in the settings screen.

v1.2a - dated: 25 december 2011
- Fixed the volume button. 
- When the sleep timer is used, the setting survived reboots. Fixed now.

v1.2 - dated: 25 december 2011
- Added failsafe mode! If for whatever reason the application crashes, there is a backup plan. This only works on the application.
  It does not protect against Linux failures etc. There is a real recovery mode for this but unfortunately not installed on all models.
  It can however be installed on working devices that do not have the recovery already!
  Special files to add the recovery mode will be released after further tests.
- Slowed down device key responses. 
- Added Samba username/password logins. Device first tries with guest login if that fails it will ask for username and password.
- Fixed a few small screen print issues.
- Fixed obtaining Gateway/Router address.

v1.1 - dated: 22 december 2011
Fixed (or at least they are supposed to be fixed):
- most connection problems should have been solved
  When you power up, there is a red "network" icon in the lower right hand corner. This means the network has not been setup yet.
  This red "network" icon will change to green when the network drivers and configuration has been loaded.
  If the network has been setup correctly, the green icon should change to a white signal strength indicator within a few seconds..
  At this point the connection is working properly. (the connection has been tested by a probe to a public server and there was a check for new firmware on the ListenLive server)
- Static IP now also works
- Network status has been modified and gives more details
- Top device buttons can be used in most of the menus/screens
- Under settings, setting "MyFavorites user account" will instantly clear the favorites cache.
- French language has been added
- Stocks are working
- MediaPlayer previous/next song works.
- Manual setting the time works. (and survives reboots) 
- NZ times should have been fixed.
- Clock brightness reset issue is fixed.
- OGG File support
- Flac file support
- FM Radio digits repositioned
- Auto Power Off / Sleeptimer added
- Deleting stored wifi networks
- Improved Samba
- Twitter account setting is now correctly saved
- FM Radio presets added.
  Now Radio has 2 operation modes, Tuning mode and Preset mode. Toggle mode with OK button.
  In preset mode use < and > to switch between the six on screen stored frequencies.
  In Tuning mode use ^and V for freq. up/down scanning, < and > for regular tuning up/down in .10 mhz steps. Press FAV to assign freq. to currently selected memory preset.
- The Alarm clock has been fixed. Alarm can be set once, every day, mon-fri, mon-sat and weekend only. OK/Directional pad activates snooze, exit/menu button deactivates the alarm.

v1.0 - dated 09: december 2011 -
Initial Revision

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Firmware 1.41 has been released.
You can only load the 1.41 firmware from the Listenlive Loader Version 2.0 !!!
So you have to update to the new loader first, then load the 1.41 firmware.

Post you findings in this thread. I will use this post to keep track of the status, bugs and fixes that have been done already in the upcoming release.
In the next post you can see what has been changed in each version. 

Note: firmware 1.42 will be available soon.

Changelist firmware 1.42:
Fixed: Improved UPnP device detection.
Fixed: When you set an Alarm sound you will see a list of preloaded sounds, the last entry is FM Radio and the entry before that is incorrectly displaying "Weekend (Sat-Sun)".
This is actually the setting for the last played music stream.
Fixed: When you select the Dutch language the MyFavorites screen does not display the right tes. Will be solved as soon as possible.
Fixed: When playing from a local or network dream and not using the repeat function, at the end of the playlist the player loops while it should just terminate.
Fixed: recording was possible in MyFavorites: Internet TV & Vodcast. This caused problems. No longer possible to select recording here.
Fixed: When going from playing music to the clock screen the sleeptimer could not be set.
Fixed: Activate UPnP on startup setting could be activated but did not survive reboots..
Fixed: Turning off the alarm did not really turn off an already set alarm in the real time clock hardware.
Changed: Restore Factory defaults. Now has 3 questions, clear device settings, clear wifi settings and clear cache memory. Answering yes on any of the first two questions will result in a reboot.
Changed: Some texts were either too large or too small.
Changed: when UPnP is not activated on startup, it is only active during the Mediaplayer session (to make sure network traffic and memory use is low).
Changed: List of stock market symbols was static, now it is loaded from the server.
Changed: Language data was static, now it is loaded from the server.
Changed: moved the taskbar from the bottom to the top of the screen in Main screen and More Apps screen.
Changed: recorded file names changed to contain "ddmm-hhmm_station name".
Added: Device "OK"/Center button can now set the sleep timer during clock display mode too.
Added: Taskbar to media player device selection screen
Added: Minimum cache size (mplayer '-cache-min' option) can now be set in the settings screen 
Added: Our devices have the Wifi module run in power saving mode. It is now possible to switch between power saving and max. performance.
            Note that also power consumption increases so this might not be a good idea when using batteries.  
            Also note that if your Wifi is working fine, you should not really change the setting.
Added: Additional languages. Translations and fixes can be added afterwards.

Reported Bugs (not yet fixed):
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Known Issues:
- TV-Out is not working properly, this will be addressed as soon as possible.
Unlike the official firmware, technically it is possible to drive an external screen with 720x573 or 720x482 resolution.
It will take some time to get it sorted out and pull the most out of the hardware.
- The devices are clocked at 378 Mhz. According to the Ingenic datasheet, the CPU can operate at 400 Mhz.
Overclocking should also work up to ~430 Mhz. So I will try to get the CPU a bit faster.

Planned for a future update:
Fix TVOut
Media player fix for country specific characters (ëöü etc.)
Support for cover art
Browse via Genre when browsing TV/Radio lists. (already supported on the firmware, needs a change at the server)
Previous/Next radio/tv station stream with left/right buttons while playing
Improve ID3 tags, icecast information, Display song duration and related info.
Improve NFS support
Add a Screensaver.

(Last Edited by penbex on June 20, 2012, 6:58 pm)